tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4850791904682572350.post6449839611355873361..comments2023-03-24T05:19:58.220-07:00Comments on Transition Town Watch: Rob Hopkins Opening Salvo ....Ian R. Cranehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02324725062985507255noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4850791904682572350.post-10148080463464200072011-08-03T10:07:23.255-07:002011-08-03T10:07:23.255-07:00The issue for me here is that this is clearly only...The issue for me here is that this is clearly only a continuation from an earlier set of emails, which aren't published. I think these would need to be published and read in whole before judgement on Rob Hopkin's position should be made.<br /><br />Certainly, as far as i can see, Ian is using as much ridicule in his emails and comments (which are to us rather than Rob) as Rob is, so I'm not sure how we can point out one party over the other.<br /><br />I really like some of the ideals behind Transition Towns and have been very involved in it over the years, but I don't necessarily sign up wholeheartedly to the ideas of Peak Oil and Climate Change. On the other hand, I keep an open mind as actually neither Rob nor Ian nor myself really knows any more than the next person about what the future holds. All rely on different accounts, different scientific records, different perspectives to put together their story.<br /><br />And that, for me, says it all. They're both stories - Rob's and Ian's. I have listened to both of them and they're both fascinating. Both have some things right, and some things wrong, by my world view. Ian's tells us of what is wrong with the world, but offers very few solutions; Rob offers solutions but maybe has some of the reasoning for these wrong. Both draw together A-B-C-D and E and make a story out of it, drawing the lines between them in a certain way. They don't necessarily look at F-G and H in doing this, as it contradicts their story. Each is very keen to tell us that their version is right and seek new threads that will confirm it.<br /><br />The fact is, all life is connected, and wherever we look, we can find connections. Knowledge, and the pursuit of it, is like the branches of a tree spreading out into eternity. Whatever way you choose to go down these branches, you will never find it all, just a path of it, a perspective. Stories make our world and we are the makers of those stories. <br /><br />Rob and Ian can and perhaps should accept their differences on the world. In fact, they could even see them as mutually compatible. In the meantime, all readers would do well not to offer judgement on either party. Lets face it, if some of our more dirty laundry was aired like this, none of us would come out looking very good, would we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4850791904682572350.post-47135863023866207982010-11-26T18:25:18.863-08:002010-11-26T18:25:18.863-08:00just had a talk with someone who had attended one ...just had a talk with someone who had attended one of robs workshops. she loved everything about him. was shocked when i mentioned his repulsive private agenda. ian we are smart people but i am as conditioned as anyone through many many generations of slaves and i have to thank you, i have been "awake" for quite a while but tonight has been one of those major quantum leaps. mainly posing the question of conditioning stumbling blocks. i.e. the confusion and thus hesitation regarding "peaceful" and "defending oneself". IMHO one should be taught that it is right to and how to "peacefully defend ones-self against force using force." thank you once again. regards ritchUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735506494317872989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4850791904682572350.post-79641343384227893552010-10-17T22:51:23.923-07:002010-10-17T22:51:23.923-07:00just read the email and your response, where do th...just read the email and your response, where do they get these people from, so wrapped in the corporate game, this mans only defence is redicule, when you cant get to grips with whats going on in life you dismiss it and laugh at it. all will change soon and who will be laughing then, keep up the good work ian, great jobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com